The Official Football Thread

matrix-23 · 07-25-2008, 07:41 AM

since there's not a thread to speak about football, and i mean the real one and not american football, i start this thread.
the new seasons are coming up in europe, team are playing test matches and the "market" is very active.

fisrt thing: ac milan bought ronaldinho, do yuo think he will do good or bad??

**Meursault** · 07-25-2008, 10:58 AM

I think Milan threw their money away for an overweight alcoholic. He is like George Best but without the magic now. The worst of it is that now Kaka is pissed off and might want to move to Chelsea. Milan need a few young, hungry talents to rejuvenate their squad, Ronaldinho is not the answer. This is just an idiotic Berlusconi idea.

Besides that, I'm curious how all the Cristiano Ronaldo drama will end. I suppose ManU will sell him if the price is right and if they find a few interesting players to buy with the transfer fee from MAdrid.

TheLancinator · 07-25-2008, 12:05 PM

MLS All Stars 3 West Ham United 2

matrix-23 · 07-25-2008, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelancinatorZ

MLS All Stars 3 West Ham United 2

lol, who scored?

for c. ronaldo i aggree with you meur, if the price is right they will let him go. but i'm not sure is the right decision for the carreer of ronaldo...
i think they will sell him at about 100 milions, crazy...

i've heard that bayern loss the german supercup, wow...

TheLancinator · 07-25-2008, 12:40 PM

Blanco has goal and assist, MLS stars top West Ham
By The Associated Press

TORONTO (AP)—Just making it to the Major League Soccer All-Star game was a “nightmare” for Dwayne DeRosario. Once he arrived, it turned into a night he’ll never forget.

The Houston midfielder scored a tiebreaking penalty, Chicago midfielder Cuauhtemoc Blanco had one goal and helped set up another, and the MLS All-Stars posted a 3-2 victory over English Premier League team West Ham United on Thursday night.

“A game like this in my hometown, I can’t ask for anything more, especially to have an opportunity to have an impact in the game,” said DeRosario, who grew up in suburban Toronto. “For me, it’s a dream come true.”

It’s the second time in three years that DeRosario has scored the winning goal in the MLS All-Star game; his second-half strike helped the MLS beat English club Chelsea 1-0 in 2006.

DeRosario and Houston teammate and fellow Canadian Pat Onstad didn’t arrive in Toronto until early Thursday morning. The Dynamo had to play a makeup game in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday night, and rain forced a 3-hour delay and a finish after midnight. The pair caught an early morning flight to Toronto, but were delayed another 90 minutes at the airport.

“It was terrible,” DeRosario said. “I was very disappointed. It’s supposed to be a week the players enjoy, especially with it being in my hometown, to really soak up the atmosphere. I really missed that. In the future things need to be handled a bit better.”

Blanco was chosen as the game’s most valuable player for the All-Stars, who are unbeaten in five years against foreign opponents.

“The MLS players showed we have good players in our league, not only good players but great players,” New England coach Steve Nicol said.

Forward Dean Ashton scored both goals for West Ham, which beat MLS’ Columbus Crew 3-1 in an exhibition match on Sunday that was marred by a halftime scuffle between fans of both teams.

Los Angeles midfielder David Beckham played the entire game and earned an assist in his first MLS All-Star appearance. Beckham came close to scoring in the 40th minute, but his low free kick was headed away by West Ham defender Calum Davenport.

The England international had two more opportunities early in the second half, running onto a loose ball inside the 18-yard box but shooting high and just wide. He missed wide again on a free kick minutes later.

“I’d read about the last five years not losing so I was kind of nervous and hoping that we would win,” Beckham said. “As soon as we started I knew we were capable of winning it because of the quality we’ve got in the team.”

West Ham opened the scoring in the 26th minute when Carlton Cole’s header sent Ashton in alone on goal. Ashton, who made his international debut for England last month, coolly fired a low shot past New England goalkeeper Matt Reis and into the bottom corner.

The lead was short-lived, as Beckham and Blanco teamed up to help the MLS All-Stars tie it one minute later. Blanco’s clever back-heel on Beckham’s pass from midfield sent Colorado midfielder Christian Gomez into the 18-yard box, and he scored with a low shot under West Ham goalkeeper Robert Green.

Blanco put the All-Stars in front 2-1 with a brilliant goal just before halftime. Dallas midfielder Juan Toja slid a short pass to Blanco, who eluded Scott Parker and curled a shot into a far corner, beyond Green’s outstretched arms.

Nicol called it “a fantastic goal.”

“He’s a guy you want on your team,” Nicol said.

Beckham was equally impressed.

“As long as he doesn’t do that against the Galaxy, that’s good,” Beckham joked. “We as players know he’s quality and we tried to play to his strengths. We were able to connect, not just me and him but all the players all over the field.”

Ashton tied it 2-2 in the 68th minute when his long shot deflected off Kansas City defender Jimmy Conrad and past Reis.

Again, the MLS wasted little time in replying. Referee Mauricio Navarro pointed to the penalty spot after Lucas Neill brought down DeRosario inside the penalty box. With the record crowd of 20,844 roaring, DeRosario blasted his shot off the underside of the crossbar. The ball then took a fortunate bounce into the goal.

“For a split second I was a little concerned, but thankfully it went in the back of the net,” DeRosario said.

West Ham’s Luis Boa Morte almost tied it in the final minute of regular time, but shot wide.

DeRosario nearly added a second goal soon after, but Green deflected away the free kick with his palm while diving.

The MLS All-Stars beat Mexico’s Guadalajara 3-1 in 2003 and, after returning to an East-West format in 2004, defeated English team Fulham 4-1 in 2005. After blanking Chelsea in 2006, they beat Scotland’s Celtic 2-0 last year.

“The MLS is gaining momentum week in and week out,” West Ham manager Alan Curbishley said. “In Europe, we see lots of the games, we keep in touch with it. You’re probably going to find more European players attracted to the league.”

West Ham defender Jonathan Spector, of Arlington Heights, Ill., missed the game because of recent hip surgery.

matrix-23 · 07-25-2008, 01:26 PM

the "soccer" is becoming something serious overseas...
i belive you will have a quite strong national team in less then 10 years... i mean, a team that can beat most of the others teams...
but in my opinion, the quality-average of the players in mls is low...

**Meursault** · 07-25-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matrix-23

lol, who scored?

for c. ronaldo i aggree with you meur, if the price is right they will let him go. but i'm not sure is the right decision for the carreer of ronaldo...
i think they will sell him at about 100 milions, crazy...

i've heard that bayern loss the german supercup, wow...

There's a lot of great players who moved to Madrid and became lazy and fat. He might just be the next one.

And yeah, Bayern lost to Dortmund but it is not a big deal. It was more of a friendly match and Dortmund wanted it more this time.

Vardar · 07-25-2008, 02:01 PM

**Meursault** · 07-25-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vardar

I had no idea you were in the granddaddy league already.

TheLancinator · 07-25-2008, 02:11 PM

**Meursault** · 07-25-2008, 02:30 PM

Vardar · 07-25-2008, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meursault

I had no idea you were in the granddaddy league already.

I know you're insulting me and if I knew anything about your "sport" or what the insult means, I'd really be insulted!

**Meursault** · 07-25-2008, 02:37 PM

actually I merely picked on the founding date of Vardar Skopje...

Vardar · 07-25-2008, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meursault

actually I merely picked on the founding date of Vardar Skopje...

Well if you're not going to answer me in English, forget about it.

Vardar Skopje... you're just making up words!

**Meursault** · 07-25-2008, 02:48 PM

Am not:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Vardar

07-25-2008, 07:41 AM	#1
matrix-23 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 1,379 Thanks: 6 Thanked 41 Times in 19 Posts	The Official Football Thread since there's not a thread to speak about football, and i mean the real one and not american football, i start this thread. the new seasons are coming up in europe, team are playing test matches and the "market" is very active. fisrt thing: ac milan bought ronaldinho, do yuo think he will do good or bad?? __________________ thanks for my new sig to PCS! http://forum.anothersite.co.uk/showthread.php?t=193487

07-25-2008, 10:58 AM	#2
Meursault Gimme Shelter Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Old Europe Posts: 37,780 Thanks: 138 Thanked 89 Times in 35 Posts	I think Milan threw their money away for an overweight alcoholic. He is like George Best but without the magic now. The worst of it is that now Kaka is pissed off and might want to move to Chelsea. Milan need a few young, hungry talents to rejuvenate their squad, Ronaldinho is not the answer. This is just an idiotic Berlusconi idea. Besides that, I'm curious how all the Cristiano Ronaldo drama will end. I suppose ManU will sell him if the price is right and if they find a few interesting players to buy with the transfer fee from MAdrid. __________________ sick sig courtesy of fricnjay!

07-25-2008, 12:05 PM	#3
TheLancinator Rhymes with Orange Join Date: Jul 2006 Tournaments Won: 2 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 114,658 Thanks: 80 Thanked 772 Times in 538 Posts	MLS All Stars 3 West Ham United 2 __________________

07-25-2008, 12:40 PM	#5
TheLancinator Rhymes with Orange Join Date: Jul 2006 Tournaments Won: 2 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 114,658 Thanks: 80 Thanked 772 Times in 538 Posts	Blanco has goal and assist, MLS stars top West Ham By The Associated Press TORONTO (AP)—Just making it to the Major League Soccer All-Star game was a “nightmare” for Dwayne DeRosario. Once he arrived, it turned into a night he’ll never forget. The Houston midfielder scored a tiebreaking penalty, Chicago midfielder Cuauhtemoc Blanco had one goal and helped set up another, and the MLS All-Stars posted a 3-2 victory over English Premier League team West Ham United on Thursday night. “A game like this in my hometown, I can’t ask for anything more, especially to have an opportunity to have an impact in the game,” said DeRosario, who grew up in suburban Toronto. “For me, it’s a dream come true.” It’s the second time in three years that DeRosario has scored the winning goal in the MLS All-Star game; his second-half strike helped the MLS beat English club Chelsea 1-0 in 2006. DeRosario and Houston teammate and fellow Canadian Pat Onstad didn’t arrive in Toronto until early Thursday morning. The Dynamo had to play a makeup game in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday night, and rain forced a 3-hour delay and a finish after midnight. The pair caught an early morning flight to Toronto, but were delayed another 90 minutes at the airport. “It was terrible,” DeRosario said. “I was very disappointed. It’s supposed to be a week the players enjoy, especially with it being in my hometown, to really soak up the atmosphere. I really missed that. In the future things need to be handled a bit better.” Blanco was chosen as the game’s most valuable player for the All-Stars, who are unbeaten in five years against foreign opponents. “The MLS players showed we have good players in our league, not only good players but great players,” New England coach Steve Nicol said. Forward Dean Ashton scored both goals for West Ham, which beat MLS’ Columbus Crew 3-1 in an exhibition match on Sunday that was marred by a halftime scuffle between fans of both teams. Los Angeles midfielder David Beckham played the entire game and earned an assist in his first MLS All-Star appearance. Beckham came close to scoring in the 40th minute, but his low free kick was headed away by West Ham defender Calum Davenport. The England international had two more opportunities early in the second half, running onto a loose ball inside the 18-yard box but shooting high and just wide. He missed wide again on a free kick minutes later. “I’d read about the last five years not losing so I was kind of nervous and hoping that we would win,” Beckham said. “As soon as we started I knew we were capable of winning it because of the quality we’ve got in the team.” West Ham opened the scoring in the 26th minute when Carlton Cole’s header sent Ashton in alone on goal. Ashton, who made his international debut for England last month, coolly fired a low shot past New England goalkeeper Matt Reis and into the bottom corner. The lead was short-lived, as Beckham and Blanco teamed up to help the MLS All-Stars tie it one minute later. Blanco’s clever back-heel on Beckham’s pass from midfield sent Colorado midfielder Christian Gomez into the 18-yard box, and he scored with a low shot under West Ham goalkeeper Robert Green. Blanco put the All-Stars in front 2-1 with a brilliant goal just before halftime. Dallas midfielder Juan Toja slid a short pass to Blanco, who eluded Scott Parker and curled a shot into a far corner, beyond Green’s outstretched arms. Nicol called it “a fantastic goal.” “He’s a guy you want on your team,” Nicol said. Beckham was equally impressed. “As long as he doesn’t do that against the Galaxy, that’s good,” Beckham joked. “We as players know he’s quality and we tried to play to his strengths. We were able to connect, not just me and him but all the players all over the field.” Ashton tied it 2-2 in the 68th minute when his long shot deflected off Kansas City defender Jimmy Conrad and past Reis. Again, the MLS wasted little time in replying. Referee Mauricio Navarro pointed to the penalty spot after Lucas Neill brought down DeRosario inside the penalty box. With the record crowd of 20,844 roaring, DeRosario blasted his shot off the underside of the crossbar. The ball then took a fortunate bounce into the goal. “For a split second I was a little concerned, but thankfully it went in the back of the net,” DeRosario said. West Ham’s Luis Boa Morte almost tied it in the final minute of regular time, but shot wide. DeRosario nearly added a second goal soon after, but Green deflected away the free kick with his palm while diving. The MLS All-Stars beat Mexico’s Guadalajara 3-1 in 2003 and, after returning to an East-West format in 2004, defeated English team Fulham 4-1 in 2005. After blanking Chelsea in 2006, they beat Scotland’s Celtic 2-0 last year. “The MLS is gaining momentum week in and week out,” West Ham manager Alan Curbishley said. “In Europe, we see lots of the games, we keep in touch with it. You’re probably going to find more European players attracted to the league.” West Ham defender Jonathan Spector, of Arlington Heights, Ill., missed the game because of recent hip surgery. __________________

07-25-2008, 01:26 PM	#6
matrix-23 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 1,379 Thanks: 6 Thanked 41 Times in 19 Posts	the "soccer" is becoming something serious overseas... i belive you will have a quite strong national team in less then 10 years... i mean, a team that can beat most of the others teams... but in my opinion, the quality-average of the players in mls is low... __________________ thanks for my new sig to PCS! http://forum.anothersite.co.uk/showthread.php?t=193487

07-25-2008, 02:01 PM	#8
Vardar Spread the Fairy Around Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Bethlehem Posts: 16,633 Thanks: 264 Thanked 46 Times in 12 Posts	__________________ DIES IST DIE ÜBER FEE

07-25-2008, 02:11 PM	#10
TheLancinator Rhymes with Orange Join Date: Jul 2006 Tournaments Won: 2 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 114,658 Thanks: 80 Thanked 772 Times in 538 Posts	__________________

07-25-2008, 02:30 PM	#11
Meursault Gimme Shelter Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Old Europe Posts: 37,780 Thanks: 138 Thanked 89 Times in 35 Posts	__________________ sick sig courtesy of fricnjay!

07-25-2008, 02:37 PM	#13
Meursault Gimme Shelter Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Old Europe Posts: 37,780 Thanks: 138 Thanked 89 Times in 35 Posts	actually I merely picked on the founding date of Vardar Skopje... __________________ sick sig courtesy of fricnjay!

07-25-2008, 02:48 PM	#15
Meursault Gimme Shelter Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Old Europe Posts: 37,780 Thanks: 138 Thanked 89 Times in 35 Posts	Am not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FK_Vardar __________________ sick sig courtesy of fricnjay!

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