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Old 07-02-2008, 11:06 AM
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It says that once the line was crossed, it was never to be crossed again.

The "Halle Berry" situation that you are referring to is the perpetuation of the white male dominance. In America, white male/ Black female relationships are FAR outnumbered by Black male/ white female relationships. This makes white men feel inadequate. As a result, and in retaliation, white male studio executives take out their frustration by trying to make white men out to be the sexual gods of the universe. This is why white men are allowed to fuck anyone they want on screen, but Black and Asian men are not to touch the sacred white women.
what halle berry situation?
i didnt bring up monsters ball pal, i brung up guess who with ashton kutcher...
were talking people kissing, not fucking..

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This shit goes way deeper than who kisses who on film.
then why didnt u just start a thread on how u feel about racism?
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:19 AM
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One thing about "racism" I find very funny and silly is when white people complain about "reverse-racism" and "political correctness" in the last 8/9 years or so now. Given the long history of injustice of blacks in America and yet the recent trend of PC in public is irritating some white people.

I also see some argue that blacks shouldn't bitch about slavery anymore or unjust laws that belittle a race of people in the past because they feel they should NOT be responsible for their ancestors' actions. YET they prefer to follow those old constitutions that were made decades/centuries ago. There's a lot of contradictory to that belief.

With that said, I'm a pretty chill out guy, usually don't let this kind of stuff in the movies/media bother me. Haven't had any degrading encounters since junior high and high school though.

However, I think the title should say "Racism in America will NEVER die. We're all losers of it."
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:22 AM
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However, I think the title should say "Racism in America will NEVER die. We're all losers of it."
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:28 AM
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I'll agree that racism will never be a thing of the past, but I put that down to people like Shotgun Styles.
Why should studios do what YOU want, where is the huge backing of other black people moaning about it? If there is such a group, it's a poor one.
It's not the remit of the studios to appease blacks, they're there to make money however they see fit.
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why not a white man and a black woman?

like kirk and uhuru in the platos stepchildren episode of ST TOS....that was late '60s
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I am more pissed off at the Will Smiths of the world. These fucking cowards, these nutless wonders. This is a man with more money than GOD himself. Is as famous as ANYONE in Hollywood. Yet he is terrified of touching a white woman because it might ruin his credibility with the studio.
You're right but you're placing too much hope on the actors. Remember Will Smith is an actor, he's not the man you see in his movies, the hero, the one who makes sacrifices for a just cause. He's a capitalist out to make money on with his job. And he does just that, without stealing it from anyone else, so it's respectable even if he doesn't stand out to fight for civil rights past the minimum that will keep him "pleasable" with his public.
Another example is: Shwarzenegger is not terminator! He's a bodybuilder who happen to have a good looking smile and an intense look, but that's all... I won't let him administer my stable, less of everything one of the most rich regions of the world. Do you think people voted for the man or for his image?

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I expect the white establishment to do what it does, while at every turn claiming (as Lance and Anthem do on this board) that racism is a thing of the past.
And while I agree with you on your argument, we should keep the debate on the subject and not on board members. Me too was a target for some controversial ideas I expressed, but as I thought that was unfair to me, it's unfair now to point finger to them, too (and I had some very heated exchanges with them both, for sure)

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yall are missing the point.

this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with movies.
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This shit goes way deeper than who kisses who on film.
this thread was just a big rant on racism. which this forum needed just about as much as a 10lb tumor on its asshole....
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I wish you hadnt brought this subject up but now im going to be wracking my brains for days just to come up with a modern movie?

I can come up with black leading man/ black actress combinations or black actor/ latino or asian like Salma Hayek or Eva Medes.

The only film i can think of where he's got in a triangle with two white women, Renee Zellewegger and Angelina Joli is Shark tales and they're all fish in that?
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I thought I'll make a new post.

First off, there are no "Major Studio" releases anymore! All movies are made by "Production Companies". The studios give these houses big allowances, and they make the movies with the studios looking over their shoulders.

And who do you think runs the "Studios"?? Right wing conservative bible thumping white guys? (((((((NO))))))) They are left wing, Jewish, homosexual, progressive activist democrats! Who give mountains of money to the Democrat party. So why don't they make the movies you want?




Lets start!


White guy chases after the white trash girl, then realizes the righteous black woman is who he really loves. The movie ends with them deep kissing!
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White guy (DeNiro) has black girl friend (Bassett), whom demands that he stops pulling jobs, so they can get married and spend their lives together.
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Black guy (Snipes) girl friend is a hot white woman (Irène Jacob).

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Black people and white people doing each other through out! And a black cop (Snipes) is married to a white woman and has two coco children!

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Black guy is in love with white girl (Selma Blair)

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Black professor screws his white student (Selma Blair) up the ass!

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Speaks for itself!

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Black boss (Ving Rhames) is married to a white woman (Uma Thurman) and Tarantino is married to black nurse.




Shall I go on? Or are you willing to adjust your opening statement?



All this has been brought up before! many times! I remember someone asking, why don't all these rich black business and entertainment people get together and build a studio?? And put out all the movies they want!


And B.T.W., when did I ever say, there is no racism?? I see it all the time! Every time they show Obamas mentor Jeremiah Wright, he's always spouting some kind of racism!
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Nice post Anthemz!

Shotgun likes to pull the race card to suit any situation, In Bruce Almighty , the most supreme being and creator of the earth was a black guy..

how many white people complained? not 1....

perhaps these films are casting the right actor / actress regardless of colour. which is how it should be, you dont cast a crap asian actor in a blockbuster because there arent enough asain people cast, thats just stupid.

our local police does it here, they recruit specifically for asian people to join the police. this is BLATANT racism towards white people,

people should be chosen for their abilities and skills not their colour. but unfortunately people like styles will pull the race card ignoring this obvious fact.
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Nice post Anthemz!

Shotgun likes to pull the race card to suit any situation, In Bruce Almighty , the most supreme being and creator of the earth was a black guy..

how many white people complained? not 1....

perhaps these films are casting the right actor / actress regardless of colour. which is how it should be, you dont cast a crap asian actor in a blockbuster because there arent enough asain people cast, thats just stupid.

our local police does it here, they recruit specifically for asian people to join the police. this is BLATANT racism towards white people,

people should be chosen for their abilities and skills not their colour. but unfortunately people like styles will pull the race card ignoring this obvious fact.
Morgan Freeman was great in that movie... One of my favorite actors of all time..
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In Bruce Almighty , the most supreme being and creator of the earth was a black guy..

how many white people complained? not 1....
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Morgan Freeman was great in that movie... One of my favorite actors of all time..
He played the same part in Evan almighty....Maybe there's a conspiracy concerning black actors playing God
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and racism will never die , when black people use the term "nigger" freely and without consequence, if I had said Nigger, I would be looking at a ban...FACT
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and racism will never die , when black people use the term "nigger" freely and without consequence, if I had said Nigger, I would be looking at a ban...FACT
and that just shows the hypocrasy of it all
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Shotty's just mad cause he has personal issues he needs to deal with.. If I were black I would prolly be the blackest dude you ever met... Or maybe, just maybe.. I'd use the system to my advantage and do something with my life instead of sitting around wondering why Will Smith didnt get to kiss a friggin' white woman..
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