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Old 07-03-2008, 01:45 AM
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You and I both know that you have a limited relationship with the Black community. These are conversations that Black folks have every time we go to the movies. They are conversations that you would have, if you were Black.

I don't care what light people look at me in. I'm here to discuss the issue, not who likes whom on this board. That puts me in a unique position to tell the truth, because I don't care about being popular. I don't care if no one is on my side. I use this forum to sharpen my argumentation skills. It is a mental exercise, one that I enjoy and that keeps my typing skills sharp.
You dont care that your words and their presentation may make people treat other black people a certain way?
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Larry Elder turned his back on his community by going on the radio and telling black people to get off their asses and do something. He tells young black men to get off the streets, stop hanging out, and start learning something in school. He points out the corruption in the L.A. Unified School Dist., from the over weighted admin. to the corrupt teachers union. And his goal is to get better educations for all races. He tells the young girls (babies) to stop having babies, and for black fathers to take care of their children and step up and be MEN!

But, Shotgun is right! How dare Elder say this Uncle Tom shit to black people! That would make them be like Whitey! And they can't do that, so the world will see this over and over again after every disaster! Obese black women with dozens of kids wandering aimlessly through the streets. While young black men loot the local shops for shoes and electronics!

We better get that dangerous Larry Elder off the air!
Larry's not dangerous, he's a fool and an opportunist.

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1dem·a·gogue demagogue
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also dem·a·gog Listen to the pronunciation of demagog \ˈde-mə-ˌgäg\
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Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos people (perhaps akin to Greek daiesthai to divide) + agōgos leading, from agein to lead — more at tide, agent
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1 : a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power
Power, or in Larry's case, profit.
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Larry's not dangerous, he's a fool and an opportunist.

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Power, or in Larry's case, profit.
Did you read the book? Or judge it by it's cover?
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You dont care that your words and their presentation may make people treat other black people a certain way?
Now hold on. If I, one person, could have that effect on the people on this board, what kind of effect does Hollywood's racism have on society? Their message is seen by millions, mine is only read by the few in this forum.

This discussion has just come full circle.
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Did you read the book? Or judge it by it's cover?
That's your argument?

Larry takes advantage of angry white men's prejudices by telling them that they are fully justified in being bigots because Black people deserve it. That is a ludicrous position to hold. But then, he doesn't believe a word of it. Like Ann Coulter, he is just trying to sell books and get racist white people to listen to his radio show. And that's the bottom line: his market is angry white men, not disaffected Black people. That's who listens to him, that's who he markets his book to.

Black who attacks other Blacks for profit: Uncle Tom.
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That's your argument?

Larry takes advantage of angry white men's prejudices by telling them that they are fully justified in being bigots because Black people deserve it. That is a ludicrous position to hold. But then, he doesn't believe a word of it. Like Ann Coulter, he is just trying to sell books and get racist white people to listen to his radio show. And that's the bottom line: his market is angry white men, not disaffected Black people. That's who listens to him, that's who he markets his book to.

Black who attacks other Blacks for profit: Uncle Tom.

I can see your beef with that.. Even if the guy may have some valid points..

How About Bill Cosby?
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That's your argument?

Larry takes advantage of angry white men's prejudices by telling them that they are fully justified in being bigots because Black people deserve it. That is a ludicrous position to hold. But then, he doesn't believe a word of it. Like Ann Coulter, he is just trying to sell books and get racist white people to listen to his radio show. And that's the bottom line: his market is angry white men, not disaffected Black people. That's who listens to him, that's who he markets his book to.

Black who attacks other Blacks for profit: Uncle Tom.
No he tells black people to try to better themselves for the good of the black community!

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Black who attack Whitey for profit: Minista! or Rev. (there are a few of those.)
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No he tells black people to try to better themselves for the good of the black community!

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Black who attack Whitey for profit: Minista! or Rev. (there are a few of those.)
I will say by the title of his book its not geared towards Black people.. All the title is going to do is piss them off..
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I am a white man and have white charisma..
Don't associate white people with your charisma
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I'm sorry, but I have to get this off my chest.

I have been waiting six months to see Hancock. I am a huge Will Smith fan, and I figured it would be a great ride. Lots of CGI and smashing things.

So I go to the sneak preview tonight, the late show. I am all geeked up on popcorn and Cherry Coke. The first half of the flick is great, plenty of action and some pretty good jokes.

Then here comes the nigger shit again. Now, I'm not going to give away the plot, but suffice it to say that the movie's ending theme is state that niggers should stay away from the white women. Being a nigger, I am was none too pleased.

I am not just pissed off at the white establishment that owns the studios. The Hollywood machine has, to my knowledge, NEVER paired a Black man and white woman in a studio backed big budget movie. I expect the white establishment to do what it does, while at every turn claiming (as Lance and Anthem do on this board) that racism is a thing of the past.

I am more pissed off at the Will Smiths of the world. These fucking cowards, these nutless wonders. This is a man with more money than GOD himself. Is as famous as ANYONE in Hollywood. Yet he is terrified of touching a white woman because it might ruin his credibility with the studio. You realize that the biggest summer blockbuster star in ALL of Hollywood (smith) has never had a white leading lady? IT IS TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT! WHAT THE FUCK?

Simply stated, white people have won the race war. They have proven, once and for all, that claiming that racism is dead and gone is the best way to continue perpetuating it. My hat is off to the racist clowns and cowardly uncle toms in Hollywood, you have officially won. Your prize? A country so afraid of it's own shadow that it voted for a president that is an international joke, supported a war based on faked evidence, and would rather see two hairy men fuck than see a pretty white girl kiss a Black man.

Don't believe me, I can prove it. I give you the film "Far From Heaven". Dennis Quaid kisses a dude, but Julianne Moore is not allowed to kiss Dennis Haysbert.

Maybe I'll move to Canada...

How many fat white women have leading roles in major motion pictures?
Black guys only have relationships with the white women who are fat right?
Maybe the problem isn't with a black man kissing a white woman so much no one likes a fatty.

We are generalizing here right? I'll admit that I have not read every single word in this thread, but it does seem to be based on a lot of assumption and personal views. Racism will always exist and of course I'm generalizing here because I can only project what is likely in my lifetime. The point made in other threads is that racism has taken affirmative action. Every race takes it's own form of racial discrimination and profiling. I still don't understand what a black community is. Is this not a form of racism in itself? What pride is trying to be established?

I'll tell you exactly what I think when I see a cute white girl with a black guy.
I think damn....She's with that guy instead of me. Plain and simple
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Is life unfair for black Americans?


Is racial equality the answer to every question of public policy?


Are a huge group of citizens being kept down by “the man”?

Radio host and bestselling author Larry Elder has made a career out of being a thorn-in-the-side of the conventional wisdom crowd. He deflates the pompous and points out the completely logical truths hidden behind the nutty rhetoric and out-of-control pandering of many of the politicians and so-called leaders of a variety of special interest groups. In Stupid Black Men, he takes on the mind-set that always captures the most media attention—as well as masses of public money—in this country: those who rail against racism as the root of all problems, and who end up hurting precisely those they claim to be helping.

Whether they are demagogues like Al Sharpton, established politicians like Hillary Clinton, or entertainers like Danny Glover, no one escapes Elder’s cogent arguments and rapier wit. His sometimes hilarious and always infuriating examples of wrong-headedness skewer not just politicians for their smugness and hypocrisy, but also actors, educators, religious leaders and the “mainscream media” for keeping the story in the headlines.

But Elder has a positive message, too: though they are fewer—and generally not as loud-mouthed—there are leaders and role models today who want to sweep away race-based whining and urge everyone in America, to share in the hard work, smart thinking and optimism that make this country great.
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I'll tell you exactly what I think when I see a cute white girl with a black guy.
I think damn....She's with that guy instead of me. Plain and simple
After our conversation today I'll say "Oh look.. Another poor white girl has been bamboozled by the black mans angry guilt tactics.."
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Too much to read, but let me ask... really, what's the big deal about white women?

Interesting that this attack went against super liberal and sensitive Hollywood. I dig that!

I'm all about the United Colors of Bennetton. Interracial makes the best models.

White girlies? They nice people, definitely, but y'all can have em.
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