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Old 03-18-2009, 06:08 PM #1
 
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Rant Will Smith admits that Hollywood studios won't let him kiss white girls on screen

I'm sure some of you remember my huge rant about this when Hancock came out last summer. I was really bent about it, and many of you said it was all in my head.

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Despite the purported heaviness of Seven Pounds' theme, Smith, who has two actor children, Jaden, 10, and Willow, eight, with second wife, actress Jada Pinkett Smith, is today in his usual ebullient comedic form. He says he deals with traumatic events in his own life by utilising that "air for comedy.

"Everything is funny to me. Everything. My mother's diabetic and four years ago she had her leg amputated. It was a big deal in the family and I could only make jokes. My mother thought it was just fantastic. She loved the energy."

No wonder he's after "some big broad comedy" next, though Smith says Hollywood will still not pair him with a white woman in a romantic comedy. In Seven Pounds, he romances African American Rosario Dawson; in Hitch, it was Latino Eva Mendes.

Is Hollywood really nervous about Will Smith kissing a white girl?

"Definitely nervous. You spend millions on a movie and the studio wants to do everything they can to protect their investment. The idea of a black guy kissing a white girl on screen becomes huge news in the States. Outside the country it's no big deal but in the US it's still a big racial issue."

This is what I said ALMOST WORD FOR WORD six months earlier.

Hollywood is racist as hell when it comes to Black men with white women, but super liberal when it comes to Black women with white men.

So I ask the question again: what is it about Black men that makes white men so insecure? It's 2009 people! We should long since have been over this shit!
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Did you call him a horse? As in hung like a horse? You're trying to say white guys have little dicks aren't you! Racist bastard.


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Hollywood is racist as hell when it comes to Black men with white women, but super liberal when it comes to Black women with white men.
Hollywood isn't racist.. They give mainstream America what they want.

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So I ask the question again: what is it about Black men that makes white men so insecure? It's 2009 people!
I could answer this honestly.. But it doesn't have anything to do with "insecurity" and Im sure my comments could be twisted to appear racist. Im a mod, so I better not.
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surely the point is whats written in the article, that theres a percieved problem in the US. The recent election shows that the US might not have the major race hang-ups it used to have but one of the studies is going to have to man up and risk several million dollars and its reputation to be the first one to break that barrier.

Nobody wants to risk that sort of money on the possibilty they may be wrong when theres so many other ways for a movie to fail already?
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I don't see a barrier per say... Wesley Snipes did Jungle Fever almost 20 years ago. So what. People so inclined won't go, and... what.. that makes white men insecure somehow?

That's quite a leap from what sells movies to the insecurities of all white men, and frankly every bit as racist as the notion that some people wouldn't see a movie because a black dude makes out with a white girl.

I like that black guys take some of the fat white girls off the market. Less pressure on the rest of us to bang those hogs.
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I don't see a barrier per say... Wesley Snipes did Jungle Fever almost 20 years ago. So what. People so inclined won't go, and... what.. that makes white men insecure somehow?

That's quite a leap from what sells movies to the insecurities of all white men, and frankly every bit as racist as the notion that some people wouldn't see a movie because a black dude makes out with a white girl.

I like that black guys take some of the fat white girls off the market. Less pressure on the rest of us to bang those hogs.
Whoa whoa whoa.... easy on the hog comments
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Whoa whoa whoa.... easy on the hog comments
Guess that did sound a little porkist.
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I don't see a barrier per say... Wesley Snipes did Jungle Fever almost 20 years ago. So what. People so inclined won't go, and... what.. that makes white men insecure somehow?
If it were that simple, the studios wouldn't be acting this way.

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That's quite a leap from what sells movies to the insecurities of all white men, and frankly every bit as racist as the notion that some people wouldn't see a movie because a black dude makes out with a white girl.
There is no proof. "Save the Last Dance" was a huge independent hit. If the studios had backed it with bankable stars (Julia Stiles was an unknown then), it could have been even bigger.

This mythology that Hollywood claims about how you can't sell a movie with BM/WF is false. Will Smith is the most bankable star in America, and if Hitch had starred Charleze Theron it would have still been a hit.

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I like that black guys take some of the fat white girls off the market. Less pressure on the rest of us to bang those hogs.
Keep telling yourself that

Fact is while most Black women will have nothing to do with a white guy, there are very few white women who won't date Black men. Now, I'm not claiming that this is right, just that it is indeed the current state of affairs.

I know for a fact that much of the insecurity felt by white men is the direct result of the things white women say about Black men. Most white women will never admit interest in Black men to a potential white suitor. He becomes comfortable in this lie. But should the relationship end he may find her dating a Black man and his image of her is shattered. He then becomes suspicious of all white women when they claim no interest in Black men.

I've seen this happen way too many times to dismiss the phenomena as an anomalous.
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Keep telling yourself that

Fact is while most Black women will have nothing to do with a white guy, there are very few white women who won't date Black men. Now, I'm not claiming that this is right, just that it is indeed the current state of affairs.

I know for a fact that much of the insecurity felt by white men is the direct result of the things white women say about Black men. Most white women will never admit interest in Black men to a potential white suitor. He becomes comfortable in this lie. But should the relationship end he may find her dating a Black man and his image of her is shattered. He then becomes suspicious of all white women when they claim no interest in Black men.

I've seen this happen way too many times to dismiss the phenomena as an anomalous.
I am not sure how much of that is racial and how much is cultural. White men have been emasculated almost beyond recognition. Black men seem to have maintained or increased the more masculine dominant role, albeit sometimes WAY over the top with the bitches and ho's crap. To me that makes black men more manly, less effeminate, and subsequently more attractive to women as men not necessarily just as black men.

IMHO, if there is an answer to your question it lies somewhere in the feminization of white men...
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Fact is while most Black women will have nothing to do with a white guy, there are very few white women who won't date Black men. Now, I'm not claiming that this is right, just that it is indeed the current state of affairs.

I know for a fact that much of the insecurity felt by white men is the direct result of the things white women say about Black men. Most white women will never admit interest in Black men to a potential white suitor. He becomes comfortable in this lie. But should the relationship end he may find her dating a Black man and his image of her is shattered. He then becomes suspicious of all white women when they claim no interest in Black men.

I've seen this happen way too many times to dismiss the phenomena as an anomalous.
That's utter and total friggin' bullshit drummed up by an over analytical black guy with a severe inferiority complex..

And to be honest I find your opinion racist, self serving, and belittling.
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So I ask the question again: what is it about Black men that makes white men so insecure? It's 2009 people! We should long since have been over this shit!
Nothing about black men makes me insecure. Stop making sweeping generalisations (racists often make those by the way) and while you're at it, take your own advice and get over it.
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I am not sure how much of that is racial and how much is cultural. White men have been emasculated almost beyond recognition. Black men seem to have maintained or increased the more masculine dominant role, albeit sometimes WAY over the top with the bitches and ho's crap. To me that makes black men more manly, less effeminate, and subsequently more attractive to women as men not necessarily just as black men.

IMHO, if there is an answer to your question it lies somewhere in the feminization of white men...
I have heard this theory before. From, of all people, Rush Limbaugh. According to him it's all the fault of an effiminate male domination in Hollywood, and the influence of feminists on the media as a whole.

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That's utter and total friggin' bullshit drummed up by an over analytical black guy with a severe inferiority complex..

And to be honest I find your opinion racist, self serving, and belittling.
You and I have been down this road before, and I expected this response. You don't like to deal with issues of race because you are unsure about your own prejudices. This makes you resent the topic of race itself, and angry at anyone who would question the behavior of white people.

For the record I happen to think that Hollywood is FAR more racist than the average American. Iowa single single handedly made Obama's presidency possible. That is a state with almost no Black people in it. I don't buy America as an inherently racist country at all. I think there are elements in our media who foster racism for their own purposes.

You should stop worrying about being called a racist for having negative opinions of some black people. I don't think you're a racist, and I understand that your opinion is complex. I don't question your integrity, and I'm not here to attack you.
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You and I have been down this road before, and I expected this response. You don't like to deal with issues of race because you are unsure about your own prejudices. This makes you resent the topic of race itself, and angry at anyone who would question the behavior of white people.
No Dude, I don't like the generalizations you make about White people and start the statements off with the word "Fact".. You're generalizations are no more correct than me making stereotypical generalized statements about the black population of America as a whole. Your opinion is molded by your personal belief and is not fact.
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