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Old 11-19-2008, 02:56 AM
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Default "Mortgage Equity Withdrawal" -- your chart o'the day

"Mortgage Equity Withdrawal" is the money people take out of their homes through home equity loans, etc.

Why does it matter? Because it was essentially "standing in" for the savings that Americans weren't making. Although this chart only goes to 2007, it seems that in 2008, Americans will have been unable to extract any cash for equity in their mortgaged homes . . . bear in mind that money that you take out of a home through a home equity loan is tax free-- and you'll see that this causes a dramatic decline in equivalent taxable income.

Dropping to zero, which seems likely, this equates to an %8 after tax fall in real income. Add to that the high fuel costs from earlier in the year, and job loss . . . and there's no wonder why the consumer is AWOL



Now think about this in the context of the collapse of the personal savings rate (the time series here is not the same, but the longer perspective is interesting, IMO)



The picture that emerges is that Americans were financing consumption in excess of income through borrowing against home appreciation. About the only thing I can conclude is that its unlikely we can return to prosperity without some major adjustments, though I don't know what they should be.
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I can't make much sense of it yet, I'll have to take another look later on, once I find my thinking cap.
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