Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military - Page 2

**Harpoon** · 08-15-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chainsoar

Wait? What's this? The Americans have been selling weapons to small unarmed countries then wading in when they get into a firefight? SURELY NOT!

HAHAHAHA

What are you babbling about?

chainsoar · 08-15-2008, 05:46 PM

I'm babbling about the western countries, and in particular the US, selling outdated arms to small obscure countries, then acting high and mighty when they get into a fight with said weapons. I accept that the British government do it too, but historically the US government is the worst offender.

TheLancinator · 08-15-2008, 05:48 PM

How is Georgia obscure? The US has invested a lot of money in that country since they became independent (and so have other western countries) And how are the M-16 and the M-4 outdated? They are used by the US as well as many other NATO countries.

**Harpoon** · 08-15-2008, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chainsoar

I'm babbling about the western countries, and in particular the US, selling outdated arms to small obscure countries, then acting high and mighty when they get into a fight with said weapons. I accept that the British government do it too, but historically the US government is the worst offender.

what the heck are you talking about? Georgia is being groomed enter Nato... High and Mighty? Where'd that come from... Ohhhhh your perception..

Dragons_Claw · 08-15-2008, 06:00 PM

At the risk of derailing the thread a little more are the Russians sure that the rifles were M40's? The M40 is used my the Marines while the M24 is used by the Army;

M40
M24

**Nemowork** · 08-15-2008, 06:06 PM

If theyre still in a labelled box, probably otherwise when is a Russian armourer going to get a chance to compare and contrast?

**Harpoon** · 08-15-2008, 06:13 PM

Id sure like to have one... We should Russia a bill for the weaponry and a case of douche bags for good posterity..

deepsepia · 08-15-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nemowork

I meant the Russian military in Georgia, not the Russian diplomatic service who are their own worst enemies at times, i should have been more precise

I think that its whistling past the graveyard to suggest that the problem is bellicose language from the Russian diplomatic service-- which merely is echoing what Putin and Medvedev are saying.

There is a real problem with Russia; it is not a "misunderstanding"-- it is to the contrary an "understanding". Wars have been fought in all these places before, for pretty much the same reasons as we're talking about today.

Anyone care to remember the Crimean War? We've got all the elements . . . right down to an idiot Emperor doing a bad imitation of his illustrious [father][uncle] seeking glory in the East.

**Harpoon** · 08-15-2008, 06:20 PM

So who's going to win this war between the US and Russia?

**Nemowork** · 08-15-2008, 06:25 PM

US has all the advantages in technology and air power, the new Russian designs are good quality but their actual field gear is still 20 years behind the west.

Basically their forces have been in hibernation for the last couple of decades and are only just entering 1992, it'll take a while for all their new stuff to get out to the troops, they prefer to selll it for hard cash to foreigners

They dont have any sea power to speak of and the airforce is still old so unless the US feels like invading Russia or at least the Caucasus they have all the advantages unless its mano a mano.

**Harpoon** · 08-15-2008, 06:27 PM

So you think the US can take them?

deepsepia · 08-15-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Harpoon

So who's going to win this war between the US and Russia?

China

Think about it: Who won the war between Iran & Iraq?
The US & Israel

Who won the War between the US and Iraq?
Iran

Who won the War between Hitler & Stalin?
The United States

Most often, the "winner" of a war is the power that does the least fighting.

**Harpoon** · 08-15-2008, 06:32 PM

No habla espanol.

TheLancinator · 08-15-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpoon

So who's going to win this war between the US and Russia?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemowork

US has all the advantages in technology and air power, the new Russian designs are good quality but their actual field gear is still 20 years behind the west.

Basically their forces have been in hibernation for the last couple of decades and are only just entering 1992, it'll take a while for all their new stuff to get out to the troops, they prefer to selll it for hard cash to foreigners

They dont have any sea power to speak of and the airforce is still old so unless the US feels like invading Russia or at least the Caucasus they have all the advantages unless its mano a mano.

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Originally Posted by Harpoon

So you think the US can take them?

Don't have to worry about it staying between the US and the USSR (come on, we all know that's what the Russians want again). This has all the makings of WW3.

Jezter · 08-15-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Harpoon

So you think the US can take them?

I hope there wont come a time to find out who will win....

08-15-2008, 05:46 PM	#17
chainsoar We Don't Go To Ravenholm Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In yo' FACE! Posts: 4,245 Thanks: 3 Thanked 23 Times in 17 Posts	I'm babbling about the western countries, and in particular the US, selling outdated arms to small obscure countries, then acting high and mighty when they get into a fight with said weapons. I accept that the British government do it too, but historically the US government is the worst offender. __________________

08-15-2008, 05:48 PM	#18
TheLancinator Rhymes with Orange Join Date: Jul 2006 Tournaments Won: 2 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 112,922 Thanks: 76 Thanked 734 Times in 514 Posts	How is Georgia obscure? The US has invested a lot of money in that country since they became independent (and so have other western countries) And how are the M-16 and the M-4 outdated? They are used by the US as well as many other NATO countries. __________________

08-15-2008, 06:00 PM	#20
Dragons_Claw Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,113 Thanks: 7 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	At the risk of derailing the thread a little more are the Russians sure that the rifles were M40's? The M40 is used my the Marines while the M24 is used by the Army; M40 M24 __________________

08-15-2008, 06:06 PM	#21
Nemowork Whats a safety catch? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mobilis in Mobilii Posts: 24,619 Thanks: 6 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	If theyre still in a labelled box, probably otherwise when is a Russian armourer going to get a chance to compare and contrast? __________________ “A wise man is superior to any insults which can be put upon him, and the best reply to unseemly behavior is patience and moderation.” Moliere "You do the unseemly behavior, I'll handle the moderation" - Nemo

08-15-2008, 06:13 PM	#22
Harpoon Blankety Blank Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Down by the river Posts: 35,273 Thanks: 45 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Id sure like to have one... We should Russia a bill for the weaponry and a case of douche bags for good posterity.. __________________ .

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Harpoon Blankety Blank Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Down by the river Posts: 35,273 Thanks: 45 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	So who's going to win this war between the US and Russia? __________________ .

08-15-2008, 06:25 PM	#25
Nemowork Whats a safety catch? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mobilis in Mobilii Posts: 24,619 Thanks: 6 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	US has all the advantages in technology and air power, the new Russian designs are good quality but their actual field gear is still 20 years behind the west. Basically their forces have been in hibernation for the last couple of decades and are only just entering 1992, it'll take a while for all their new stuff to get out to the troops, they prefer to selll it for hard cash to foreigners They dont have any sea power to speak of and the airforce is still old so unless the US feels like invading Russia or at least the Caucasus they have all the advantages unless its mano a mano. __________________ “A wise man is superior to any insults which can be put upon him, and the best reply to unseemly behavior is patience and moderation.” Moliere "You do the unseemly behavior, I'll handle the moderation" - Nemo

08-15-2008, 06:27 PM	#26
Harpoon Blankety Blank Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Down by the river Posts: 35,273 Thanks: 45 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	So you think the US can take them? __________________ .

08-15-2008, 06:32 PM	#28
Harpoon Blankety Blank Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Down by the river Posts: 35,273 Thanks: 45 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	No habla espanol. __________________ .

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